Theology in the Raw

Theology in the Raw is a show done by Dr. Preston Sprinkle and airs 2:15pm Monday–Friday. Preston is the Vice President of Eternity Bible College’s Boise extension and has written several books including Erasing Hell (with Francis Chan), Fight and the recently released Charis: God’s Scandalous Grace for Us. Preston is passionate about Christ and the truth in the Word of God. You can check out Preston’s blog or to learn more about Preston visit www.prestonsprinkle.com.

 
 
Show Episode List

Being an “Evangelical” Christian?

Is the U.S. Like the New Israel or More Like Rome?

Post Election Reflections

Election Day

The LDS Faith

Black Lives Matter

Maintaining Your Fire While Studying the Bible

Should Christians Keep the Law?

The Historical Accuracy of the Old Testament

A Political Correction and The Atonement of Christ

Homosexuality, Genocide and the Wrath of God

Recreational Marijuana

My Daughter Wants a Sex Change

How About Love the Sinner and Hate ‘Your Own’ Sin

Can a Non-Christian Lead Worship?

Being a Youth Pastor

School, Debt, Ministry and Some of Preston’s Own Story

Is Divorce a Disqualification for Ministry?

Apostles Today

Violence in the Old Testament

Can the Bible Be Open and Affirming?

Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation?

Sexual Orientation

Demons

Chrissy and Preston: Talking Homeschool

Chrissy and Preston: Balancing Work, Family and School

Chrissy and Preston: Choosing a Church

God Our Great Mother?

A $85,000 Nativity Scene and $5000 to Help End the Sex-Trade

Tithing and Giving: Partnering as a Community

Tithing and Giving: Some Challenges Against Preston

Preston and Chrissy Sprinkle 3: The Forgotten Anniversary

Preston and Chrissy Sprinkle 2: Parenting with the Sprinkles

Preston and Chrissy 1: Preston Didn’t Make the List!

Is Emotional and Physical Abuse Grounds for Divorce?

Spiritual or Physical Healing?

Is Satan an Actual Being?

Recovery Ministries and Women Deacons

Doing Church a More Simple Way

Who’s Preston Voting For?

Dr. Benj: Reflections on the Presidential Candidates

Dr. Benj: The Christian Case for Gary Johnson

Dr. Benj: A Christian Case For Clinton As President

Dr. Benj: A Christian Case for Trump as President

Christians and Money…Again!?

Living in the Freedom of Christ

A Successful Integration of Discussion-Based Teaching

Family Churches and House Churches

Eugene H. Peterson 2

Eugene H. Peterson

Staying or Leaving

The Millennium

The Emergent Church

God in the Old Testament

Applying Business Principles in the Church

Sunday Morning Gatherings

When is the Right Time to Respond?

Disqualified Elders

Revisiting the Unequally Yoked

Is Expository Preaching Necessary in the Church?

Is Sunday Really the New Sabbath?

Being Unequally Yoked and Partnership with Unbelievers

Acceptable Theological Diversity Within the Church 2

Acceptable Theological Diversity Within the Church

Why Can We Trust the Bible?

Hanging with Andres Rodriguez, Jay Newman and Joey Dodson 2

Hanging with Andres Rodriguez, Jay Newman and Joey Dodson

Racial Tensions with Michael Ross 3 [Extended]

Racial Tensions with Michael Ross 2 [Extended]

Racial Tensions in America with Michael Ross 1 [Extended]

Disqualifications of Elders

Church and Money

Gifts of the Spirit: Continued or Ceased?

How Much of the Law Applies to Us Today?

Dr. Benj: Numerology and Gematria

Dr. Benj: How Long Was the Exile?

Dr. Benj: Exile and The Prophet Habakkuk

Dr. Benj: Nebuchadnezzar

Annihilation: Matthew 25:46

Jesus, Paul and Same-Sex Relations

Jesus vs. The Church: Empower the Outliers

Jesus vs. The Church: More Diversity Not Uniformity

Jesus vs. The Church: Mission Not Just Morality

Jesus vs. The Church: Principles of Discipleship

Jesus vs. The Church: Relationships and Doctrine

Jesus vs. The Church: Round 2

Jesus vs. The Church

Requirements of a Pastor

Complementarianism

Forgiveness and the Song of Songs

Back in the US – Praying in Tongues

Kenny a Gay Christian Pt. 2 [05.27.16]

Kenny a Gay Christian Pt. 1 [05.26.15]

Dr. Benj: Jeroboam’s Golden Calves

Dr. Benj: The Birth of Jesus Pt. 3

Dr. Benj: The Birth of Jesus Pt. 2

Dr. Benj: The Birth of Jesus

from the UK: Driving with Marty McNeely

from the UK: Martin and Glen Pt. 3

from the UK: Martin and Glen Pt. 2

from the UK; Martin Clarke and Glen Innes

from the UK: James Faddes

from the UK: An Update on the Tour

Dr. Benj: Did Jeptha Kill His Daughter?

Dr. Benj: Punishment from Generation to Generation

from the UK: Andrew Wilson

from the UK: Owen Cottom

Dr. Benj: Covenantal Themes

Dr. Benj: Zionist Theology and the Wrath and Love of God

Dr. Benj: Major Themes of the Old Testament

Dr. Benj: Genesis 1:1 – Gap Theory cont.

The Laying On of Hands and Anointing with Oil

Dr. Benj: Genesis 1:1

Food Sacrificed to Idols and Baptism

Pauline Authorship of the 13 Letters

Genesis 6:4 – The Nephilim

Dr. Benj: The Date of the Exodus

Dr. Benj: The Conversion of Ninevah

Dr. Benj: Archaeology and the Bible

Dr. Benj: Modern and Ancient Hebrew

Dr. Benj Foreman: The Miracle of His Daughter

Joel Willitts Continues His Story of Sexual Abuse

Dr. Joel Willitts and His Story of Sexual Abuse

In Chicago with Dr. Joel Willitts

Why the Books of the Bible?

The “Jesus Religion”

Who Makes Us Married? God or the State?

Organ Donation

The Meaning of Malakos

Violence in the Media

Immediate Annihilation and God’s Harsh Judgment

Christians and LGBTQ Relations

Weapons, Violence, Self-Defense: Gun Stats

Weapons, Violence, Self-Defense: Stopping a Bad Guy With a Gun

Weapons, Violence, Self-Defense: Luke 22:35-38

Weapons, Violence and Self-Defense

Christian and Purgatorial Conversion

Romans 1 and Same-Sex Behavior

Conversion After Death

The Wrath of God

Faith and Doubt

“My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?”

Running Away “Neked”

Lesbian Parents, Violence and Streaking

THE WORD of God

The Problem of Evil: God and Suffering

The Large Sunday Service

The Roles of Women in Church

Religion and Science…Dun Dun DUNN!!

The Gospel and The Trinity

Are We Okay to be Asked Questions?

Catholicism and John MacArthur

Matthew 25:46 – Eternal Punishment

Capital Punishment for Sins

How We Do Church Pt. 3

How We Do Church Pt. 2

How We Do Church

Making America Godly…Again!?

Inerrancy: What Does it Mean?

The Inerrancy and Infallibility of Scripture

The Lordship Salvation Controversy

The Rapture Pt. 2

The Rapture

The Unpardonable Sin

Open Theism

Will God Reject Someone Who Truly Desires Jesus?

Preston’s Influences Pt. 2

Preston’s Influences

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 8 – Immortality & Discussion

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 7 – The Afterlife

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 6 – 1 Peter 3:18-20

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 5 – God’s Consistent Character

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 4 – The Meaning of ἀπόλλυμι

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 3 – The Rich Man and Lazarus

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 2

Annihilation: Q&A

Annihilation: Revelation 14:9-11

Annihilation: Mark 9:47-49

Annihilation: Matt 18:8, 25:46

Annihilation: Daniel 12:2, Matt. 18:8

Annihilation: Isaiah 66:15-24

3 Christian Views of Hell: Biblical Evidence for Annihilation Pt. 3

3 Christian Views of Hell: The Biblical Evidence for Annihilation Pt. 2

3 Christian Views of Hell: Biblical Evidence of Annihilation

3 Christian Views of Hell: Myths of Annihilation

3 Christian Views of Hell: Overview

1 Samuel Pt. 9: Samuel Summoned from the Dead

3 Christian Views of Hell Teaser

1 Samuel Pt. 8: David and Goliath

1 Samuel Pt. 7: A Spirit from the Lord

1 Samuel Pt. 6: The Anointing of David

1 Samuel Pt. 5: King Saul

1 Samuel Pt. 4: A King Like the Nations

1 Samuel Pt. 3: The Coming Messiah

1 Samuel Pt. 2: Hannah’s Prayer

1 Samuel Pt. 1: Theological Themes

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 5

City Forums and Multiethnicity Pt. 4

Reformed but Not Reformed (March 4, 2015)

The Fall of Satan (June 22, 2015)

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 3

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 2

Multiethnicity in the Church

Discipleship and Segregation

Martin Luther King Jr.

Ruth: The Kinsman Redeemer and into Samuel

Ruth: Characters of the Book of Ruth

The Book of Ruth

Judges: The “Canaanization” of Israel

Judges: “Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.”

Judges: Don’t Be a Gideon

Judges: The Judges of Israel

Beginning in Judges

Reflecting on 40 Years of Life

The Conquest of Canaan and the Right of Israel Today

Joshua’s “Genocide” Pt. 4

Joshua’s “Genocide” Pt. 3

Joshua’s Genocide Pt. 2

Joshua Pt. 5: Joshua’s Genocide

The Scandal of Christmas Pt. 2

The Scandal of Christmas Pt. 1

Joshua Pt. 4: The Unfaithfulness of the Israelites

Joshua Pt. 3: The Battle of Jericho

Joshua Pt. 2 – A Pre-Incarnate Christ!?

Old Testament Survey: Joshua

Preston on Steve Brown Etc. Pt. 3

Preston on Steve Brown Etc. Pt. 2

Preston on Steve Brown Etc.

Old Testament Survey: Eschatology in Deuteronomy

Old Testament Survey: Themes in Deuteronomy

Old Testament Survey: Deuteronomy

Living in a Gray World: Books on Homosexuality

Old Testament Survey; Back into Deuteronomy

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 3

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 2

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 1

The Syrian Refugee Crisis Pt. 3

The Syrian Refugee Crisis Pt. 2

The Syrian Refugee Crisis

What Does Jesus Say About Same Sex Marriage? Pt. 4

What Does Jesus Say About Same Sex Marriage? Pt. 3

What Does Jesus Say About Same-Sex Marriage? Pt. 2

What Does Jesus Say About Same-Sex Marriage?

Numbers; God’s Relationship with Moses

Naked Theology and Talking Donkeys

Numbers; Does Prayer Really Move the Heart of God?

Back to the Old Testament and into Numbers

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 7

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 6

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 5

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 4

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 3

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 2

Christianity and the Poor

Interview with Preston Pt. 2

Interview with Preston Sprinkle Pt. 1

Old Testament Survey; Leviticus 10

Christian Cliches

Old Testament Survey; Grain and Guilt Offering

Old Testament Survey; Leviticus

Old Testament Survey: Jumping Back into Exodus

The Freedom of God Redux Pt. 2

The Freedom of God Redux Pt. 1

Why Millennials Are Leaving the Church Pt. 10

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 9

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 8

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 7

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 6

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 5

Why Millennials are Leaving the Church Pt. 4

Why Millennials Are Leaving the Church Pt. 3

Why Millennials Are Leaving the Church? Pt. 2

Why Millennials Are Leaving the Church?

Old Testament Survey Pt. 20; The 10 Commandments

Old Testament Survey Pt. 19: God’s Covenant with Israel

Coming Soon “Theology in the Raw”

Old Testament Survey Pt. 17: The Hardening of Pharaoh’s Heart

Old Testament Survey Pt. 17: The 10 Plagues

Being the Church in the Heart of Sodom and Gomorrah

Old Testament Survey Pt. 16: Intro into Exodus

Old Testament Survey Pt. 14: Partial Fulfillment of God’s Promises

Old Testament Survey Pt. 13: Gen 38 – Judah and Tamar Pt. 2

Old Testament Survey Pt. 12: Genesis 38 – Judah and Tamar

Old Testament Survey Pt. 11: God’s Covenant Ceremony

Old Testament Survey Pt. 10: Genesis 15

Old Testament Survey Pt. 9: God’s Promises to Abraham

The Doctrine of Hell Pt. 1

Old Testament Survey Pt. 7: The Flood

Old Testament Survey Pt. 6: Genesis Chapter 6 and the Sons of God

Old Testament Survey Pt. 5: Continuing in Genesis

Old Testament Survey Pt. 3: Authorship of the First Five Books

What the Bible Says About Itself Pt. 2: An Old Testament Survey

What the Bible Says About Itself Pt. 1

Talking with Dr. Ben About Israel Pt. 2

Talking with Dr. Ben about Israel

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 14

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 13

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 12

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 11

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 10

The Freedom of God to Be God Pt. 9

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 8

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 7

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 6

The Freedom of God to Be God Pt. 5

The Freedom of God Pt. 4

The Freedom of God to Be God Pt. 3

The Freedom of God to be God Pt. 2

The Freedom of God to be God

Premarital Sex

The Grace of Jesus Christ Pt. 2

The Grace of Jesus Christ Pt. 1

Foundation of Gen 1 and 2 – Pt. 3

The Foundation of Genesis 1 and 2 – Pt. 2

The Foundation of Genesis 1 and 2 – Pt. 1

Being an Evangelical Christian Pt. 6

Being an Evangelical Pt. 5

Being an Evangelical Pt. 4

Being an Evangelical Pt. 3

Being an Evangelical Christian Pt. 2

Thoughts on the SCOTUS Ruling

Homosexuality Pt. 32: What Now!? – Pastoral Responses

Homosexuality Pt. 31: What Now!?

Homosexuality Pt. 30: Is Same-Sex “Attraction” Sinful?

Homosexuality Pt. 29: Comments on Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner

Homosexuality Pt. 28: Transgender Intersex Pt. 2

Homosexuality Pt. 27 – Transgender and Intersex

Homosexuality Pt. 26: Nature vs. Nurture In-Depth Pt. 2

Homosexuality Pt. 24: Live Q&A

Homosexuality Pt. 23: Nature vs. Nurture In-Depth

Homosexuality Pt. 21: What Does Jesus Say About Homosexuality?

Homosexuality Pt. 19: Addressing a Few Criticisms

Homosexuality Pt. 18: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Continued

Homosexuality Pt. 17: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Homosexuality Pt. 16: Continuing with Kenny

Homosexuality Pt. 15: Interview with Kenny, A Gay Christian

Homosexuality Pt. 13: 5 Affirming Interpretations of Romans 1

Homosexuality Pt. 11: Diving into Romans 1

Homosexuality Pt. 6: Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13

Homosexuality: Why this Topic?

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10 comments

  • Lev 18:24-30 is a parenthetical insertion. The Canaanites were not under the Law of Moses nor any specific covenant like the nation of Israel. Yet the land vomited them out of the land because of these abominations. This then makes it clear that God applies these moral standards to all of mankind for all time. There can be no exception for anyone ever.

  • First, I would like to thank you for your program and for taking on the tough subjects. As to the recent subject at hand, it is a hard thing to defend the condemned. John 8: 1-11

    For what it’s worth, I agree with what the bible says…
    My only concern for those who identify themselves as “Gay-Christians” is the subject of repentance?

    If a man should lust after a woman, Jesus condemns him as an adulter, simply because it is in the heart. Also with being angry at our brother. If Lusting within is a sin, do we not need to “repent?” Surely we do not embrace it?

    If a man has sexual desires for other women while he is a married man, should he not repent and seek forgiveness? Should he not battle against his sinful desires; even hate them? Or would it be right to simply say that’s how God made me, except it and live with it as if it were a friend?

    if a man (these all apply to women also) is addicted to pornography does he say, “I can’t control the fact that I like to look at women,” etc. (keeping it civil). Or does he do with battle with his sinful nature, confessing, repenting and falling upon the Lord to deliver him?

    the examples are numerous.

    I am not disputing anyone’s claim of being a Christian, what I am addressing is the lack of repentance and acknowledgement of their sin? If looking at pornography is sin, if lusting is sin, then the desire to do what scripture says not to do is sin also.

    W

    • sorry for the mix up, the first draft automatically posted before I was done. Full comment was added below. Please delete fist draft. thanks.

  • Mr. Preston Sprinkle
    First of all, thank you for your program and for taking on the tough subjects. It is a hard thing to defend the condemned. John 8:1-11

    As to the current issue at hand…
    For what it’s worth, I agree with what the Bible says.

    My concern is with the lack of Repentance on behalf of the “Gay-Christians”.

    If Jesus condemns a man for lusting, even though he does not act on his desire, does this man need to repent?

    If a man is condemned of murder for being angry with his brother, should he also repent?

    If a man is addicted to pornography, should he also not repent? Or does he simply say, “That’s how God made me.”

    If a married man continually desires other women, does he say, “I can’t control the fact that I’m attracted to other women.” Or does he repent.

    Do we not battle our sinful nature (Romans 7:14-25), surely we do not embrace what God has condemned?

    Does not the “Christian” who desires to steal, fight that desire; same as the liar, the gossip, the alcoholic, the man given to fits of rage; along with the jealous, the proud, the adultery, etc.?

    You have said that it is acting upon the desire that is sinful; but Christ condemns the thought…
    Let me say right here that I am a man that battles the thought life much more than the act. I am not casting stones, just asking questions.

    …my concern is with the “Gay-Christians” lack of repentance and acknowledgment that the desire itself is sinful and in need of forgiveness.

    What do we love more; our desire (inward or outward) or God?
    What do we love more; our nature or our God?
    Do we justify the sinful nature while embracing Christ?

    If we urge those with other sinful desires to repent and seek forgiveness for their ungodly urges…then should we not also the LGBT?

    Are they a “Gay-Christian” or are they a “sinful Christian”, like the rest of us?
    Are they a Christian battling their sins, or accepting them?

    Once again, thank you for your work in the Lord. Keep asking the hard questions.

    May God bless you and keep you

    Dan Hall

    • Hello Dan,

      Thanks for your encouraging words and for listening to the show! I really appreciate it. And thanks for raising this really good question.

      I would definitely agree with you (and so would Kenny) that sexual lust in any form (gay or straight) is sin and that people need to repent from such sin. However, the term “gay” (in “gay Christian”) does not mean “lust;” at least, this isn’t the way I or Kenny use the term (and I don’t know anyone who would use the term “gay” to mean lust).

      Rather, as explained on the show, I use the term “gay” as a synonym for same-sex attraction or same-sex orientation. Now, I don’t believe that someone who is attracted to the same sex is living in the constant state of a morally culpable sin. (Evangelicals are divided on this question, however.) Again, if that attraction turns into lust, then it certainly is sin and such a person needs to repent from this. However, there’s a difference between attraction and lust.

      As per your analogy, I can notice that another woman is attractive and this doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m lusting. It just means that I’m heterosexual 🙂 In the same way, a gay man can be attracted to other men, but this doesn’t mean they are lusting after other men.

      In sum, the term “gay” refers to a non-lustful attraction and therefore should not be equated with lust.

      I hope this helps!

      • Preston
        Thank you for your prompt reply.
        I understand, and respect, your position (and Kenny’s’) on the term “Gay Christian”.

        I would have to respectfully disagree with the concept of not needing to repent of our sinful nature. We are all sinners, without excuses, we have all gone astray and none are righteous.
        I would not even dispute or debate the nature / nurture issue; either way we need to repent.

        As for my testimony, I was born a very angry individual, given to fits of rage, fearful, un-rational, an emotional train wreck; always under condemnation, with no peace or assurance; condemning and judgmental of others; among numerous other failings I might add. It was not until the realization that I was the worst of sinners that I found the peace of Christ. It was not by accepting that God made me that way, which in fact he did… but He did so that He could show me His power to overcome these things in me by way of His love, grace, mercy and power.

        Please forgive my ramblings, I only do so because I believe that there many people who stop short of all that God has in store for them because they do not fight the sinful nature but except it and even excuse it. Acknowledging our weakness, our thorn in the side if you will, is the first step but by no means the last.

        One last thing, I am not a stranger to the LGBT community, my children having several friends within this group, and are staunch defenders.

        Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and for all that you are doing for those who have been cast out.
        May God bless them through you

        Dan

        • Thanks for your response, Dan. Again, I’m not sure we are disagreeing all too much, though I think we need to define our theological terms and concepts with more precision.

          Regarding the sinful nature, yes, of course, we are all born in sin and posses a fallen, sinful nature. But we have to distinguish between (at least) two different manifestations of that sinful nature:

          1) morally culpable products of the fall, such as lying, anger, lust, etc. that we need to repent from. And…

          2) other aspects of our fallen nature that aren’t morally culpable sins, such as blindness, deafness, mental illnesses, etc.

          Theologically (and logically), this second category is both a product of our sinful nature and evidence that we are broken, and yet aren’t things we repent from.

          Does that make sense?

          So, all I’m saying (and what most evangelical non-affirming theologians also say) is that same-sex orientation/attraction belongs in that second category. If you still disagree, then I would need to be a solid, biblical argument for why same-sex orientation is a morally culpable sin. Again, I agree that same-sex lust and same-sex behavior is sin. But these are different than same-sex orientation/attraction.

          If you want a detailed and lengthy biblical defense of my view, you can read it here:

          http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theologyintheraw/2014/12/is-same-sex-attraction-sinful/

          The second part is the most relevant.

          Thanks again for your very cordial interaction. I really appreciate it, Dan! Many blessings to you and your ministry.

          Preston

          • Thank you for your patience

            I would agree with having to “distinguish between (at least) two different manifestations of the sinful nature”

            And there lies the rub… in order to “rightfully” correct our brother we must prove the un-provable. And with that I will leave it in God’s hands, for He alone knows the heart of man.

            I gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from your program…gutsy call on your behalf. Please keep up the good work; I listen to the show every day on my way to work. I have a great admiration for any, and all, who teach “what the Bible really says.”

            Thank you for the conversation

            God Bless
            Dan

  • Hi Preston, I’ve really been enjoying going through your shows on Homosexuality. I feel your approach is in depth but also adequately respectful of the differing opinions out there. It’s been very helpful for me, thanks for the time you’ve put in to this.
    I’ve got a few more shows to get through so you may address this, but the main question that I still have is how the church should respond given your conclusion that same-sex-attraction is not sinful unless acted upon?
    It seems as though you wouldn’t necessarily advocate that the church tries to “change” these people, but rather help them journey through life and remain celibate. So if that is the ideal scenario, should churches still welcome gay couples, should they be allowed to participate as leaders/helpers, should the Church encourage couples to break up.
    I would appreciate you feedback.
    Thanks,
    Ben

    • Oh man, that’s a great question, Ben! I’ve written much more thoroughly about SSA here:

      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theologyintheraw/2014/12/is-same-sex-attraction-sinful/

      That may be a good start. I also have a book coming out that addresses the various options for those who experience SSA. In short, I see only four:

      1) a non-sexual partnership with another person of the same sex. This is a tough one for me, and though I know a few people in such relationships, I don’t know if I would recommend it.

      2) Reparative therapy. Again, a tough one. Some good but much harm has come about when people try to change their orientation.

      3) Mixed orientation marriage. I know some people that have thrived in this, but it’s not for everyone.

      4) Celibacy. Tough. Scary. Lonely. But still, I know lots of people who are pursuing this and loving Jesus in the midst of it.

      I wouldn’t have any problem following a leader, who is same-sex attracted and yet living faithfully toward Jesus in one of the above scenarios (though 1 would be tough…still working through how I feel about it). Either way, yes, the church needs to do a better job at shepherding people with SSA.

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