Theology in the Raw

Theology in the Raw is a show done by Dr. Preston Sprinkle and airs 2:15pm Monday–Friday. Preston is the Vice President of Eternity Bible College’s Boise extension and has written several books including Erasing Hell (with Francis Chan), Fight and the recently released Charis: God’s Scandalous Grace for Us. Preston is passionate about Christ and the truth in the Word of God. You can check out Preston’s blog or to learn more about Preston visit www.prestonsprinkle.com.

 
 
Show Episode List

Being an “Evangelical” Christian?

Post Election Reflections

Election Day

The LDS Faith

Black Lives Matter

Should Christians Keep the Law?

Recreational Marijuana

My Daughter Wants a Sex Change

Can a Non-Christian Lead Worship?

Being a Youth Pastor

Apostles Today

Violence in the Old Testament

Can the Bible Be Open and Affirming?

Sexual Orientation

Demons

God Our Great Mother?

Spiritual or Physical Healing?

Is Satan an Actual Being?

Recovery Ministries and Women Deacons

Doing Church a More Simple Way

Who’s Preston Voting For?

Christians and Money…Again!?

Living in the Freedom of Christ

Family Churches and House Churches

Eugene H. Peterson 2

Eugene H. Peterson

Staying or Leaving

The Millennium

The Emergent Church

God in the Old Testament

Sunday Morning Gatherings

When is the Right Time to Respond?

Disqualified Elders

Revisiting the Unequally Yoked

Is Sunday Really the New Sabbath?

Why Can We Trust the Bible?

Disqualifications of Elders

Church and Money

Dr. Benj: Nebuchadnezzar

Annihilation: Matthew 25:46

Jesus vs. The Church: Round 2

Jesus vs. The Church

Requirements of a Pastor

Complementarianism

Dr. Benj: The Birth of Jesus

from the UK: James Faddes

from the UK: Andrew Wilson

from the UK: Owen Cottom

Dr. Benj: Covenantal Themes

Dr. Benj: Genesis 1:1

Genesis 6:4 – The Nephilim

Why the Books of the Bible?

The “Jesus Religion”

Organ Donation

The Meaning of Malakos

Violence in the Media

Christians and LGBTQ Relations

Romans 1 and Same-Sex Behavior

Conversion After Death

The Wrath of God

Faith and Doubt

Running Away “Neked”

THE WORD of God

The Large Sunday Service

The Roles of Women in Church

The Gospel and The Trinity

Catholicism and John MacArthur

Capital Punishment for Sins

How We Do Church Pt. 3

How We Do Church Pt. 2

How We Do Church

Making America Godly…Again!?

Inerrancy: What Does it Mean?

The Rapture Pt. 2

The Rapture

The Unpardonable Sin

Open Theism

Preston’s Influences Pt. 2

Preston’s Influences

Annihilation: Q&A Pt. 2

Annihilation: Q&A

Annihilation: Revelation 14:9-11

Annihilation: Mark 9:47-49

Annihilation: Matt 18:8, 25:46

Annihilation: Daniel 12:2, Matt. 18:8

Annihilation: Isaiah 66:15-24

3 Christian Views of Hell: Overview

3 Christian Views of Hell Teaser

1 Samuel Pt. 8: David and Goliath

1 Samuel Pt. 5: King Saul

1 Samuel Pt. 3: The Coming Messiah

1 Samuel Pt. 2: Hannah’s Prayer

1 Samuel Pt. 1: Theological Themes

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 5

City Forums and Multiethnicity Pt. 4

The Fall of Satan (June 22, 2015)

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 3

Multiethnicity in the Church Pt. 2

Multiethnicity in the Church

Discipleship and Segregation

Martin Luther King Jr.

Ruth: Characters of the Book of Ruth

The Book of Ruth

Judges: Don’t Be a Gideon

Judges: The Judges of Israel

Beginning in Judges

Reflecting on 40 Years of Life

Joshua’s “Genocide” Pt. 4

Joshua’s “Genocide” Pt. 3

Joshua’s Genocide Pt. 2

Joshua Pt. 5: Joshua’s Genocide

The Scandal of Christmas Pt. 2

The Scandal of Christmas Pt. 1

Joshua Pt. 3: The Battle of Jericho

Old Testament Survey: Joshua

Preston on Steve Brown Etc. Pt. 3

Preston on Steve Brown Etc. Pt. 2

Preston on Steve Brown Etc.

Old Testament Survey: Deuteronomy

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 3

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 2

Welcoming the Stranger Pt. 1

The Syrian Refugee Crisis Pt. 3

The Syrian Refugee Crisis Pt. 2

The Syrian Refugee Crisis

Naked Theology and Talking Donkeys

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 7

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 6

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 5

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 4

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 3

Christianity and the Poor Pt. 2

Christianity and the Poor

Interview with Preston Pt. 2

Old Testament Survey; Leviticus 10

Christian Cliches

Old Testament Survey; Leviticus

The Freedom of God Redux Pt. 2

The Freedom of God Redux Pt. 1

Coming Soon “Theology in the Raw”

Old Testament Survey Pt. 10: Genesis 15

The Doctrine of Hell Pt. 1

Old Testament Survey Pt. 7: The Flood

Being an Evangelical Pt. 5

Being an Evangelical Pt. 4

Being an Evangelical Pt. 3

Thoughts on the SCOTUS Ruling

Homosexuality Pt. 31: What Now!?

Homosexuality Pt. 24: Live Q&A

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10 Comments

  1. Hi Preston, I’ve really been enjoying going through your shows on Homosexuality. I feel your approach is in depth but also adequately respectful of the differing opinions out there. It’s been very helpful for me, thanks for the time you’ve put in to this.
    I’ve got a few more shows to get through so you may address this, but the main question that I still have is how the church should respond given your conclusion that same-sex-attraction is not sinful unless acted upon?
    It seems as though you wouldn’t necessarily advocate that the church tries to “change” these people, but rather help them journey through life and remain celibate. So if that is the ideal scenario, should churches still welcome gay couples, should they be allowed to participate as leaders/helpers, should the Church encourage couples to break up.
    I would appreciate you feedback.
    Thanks,
    Ben

    1. Oh man, that’s a great question, Ben! I’ve written much more thoroughly about SSA here:

      http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theologyintheraw/2014/12/is-same-sex-attraction-sinful/

      That may be a good start. I also have a book coming out that addresses the various options for those who experience SSA. In short, I see only four:

      1) a non-sexual partnership with another person of the same sex. This is a tough one for me, and though I know a few people in such relationships, I don’t know if I would recommend it.

      2) Reparative therapy. Again, a tough one. Some good but much harm has come about when people try to change their orientation.

      3) Mixed orientation marriage. I know some people that have thrived in this, but it’s not for everyone.

      4) Celibacy. Tough. Scary. Lonely. But still, I know lots of people who are pursuing this and loving Jesus in the midst of it.

      I wouldn’t have any problem following a leader, who is same-sex attracted and yet living faithfully toward Jesus in one of the above scenarios (though 1 would be tough…still working through how I feel about it). Either way, yes, the church needs to do a better job at shepherding people with SSA.

  2. Mr. Preston Sprinkle
    First of all, thank you for your program and for taking on the tough subjects. It is a hard thing to defend the condemned. John 8:1-11

    As to the current issue at hand…
    For what it’s worth, I agree with what the Bible says.

    My concern is with the lack of Repentance on behalf of the “Gay-Christians”.

    If Jesus condemns a man for lusting, even though he does not act on his desire, does this man need to repent?

    If a man is condemned of murder for being angry with his brother, should he also repent?

    If a man is addicted to pornography, should he also not repent? Or does he simply say, “That’s how God made me.”

    If a married man continually desires other women, does he say, “I can’t control the fact that I’m attracted to other women.” Or does he repent.

    Do we not battle our sinful nature (Romans 7:14-25), surely we do not embrace what God has condemned?

    Does not the “Christian” who desires to steal, fight that desire; same as the liar, the gossip, the alcoholic, the man given to fits of rage; along with the jealous, the proud, the adultery, etc.?

    You have said that it is acting upon the desire that is sinful; but Christ condemns the thought…
    Let me say right here that I am a man that battles the thought life much more than the act. I am not casting stones, just asking questions.

    …my concern is with the “Gay-Christians” lack of repentance and acknowledgment that the desire itself is sinful and in need of forgiveness.

    What do we love more; our desire (inward or outward) or God?
    What do we love more; our nature or our God?
    Do we justify the sinful nature while embracing Christ?

    If we urge those with other sinful desires to repent and seek forgiveness for their ungodly urges…then should we not also the LGBT?

    Are they a “Gay-Christian” or are they a “sinful Christian”, like the rest of us?
    Are they a Christian battling their sins, or accepting them?

    Once again, thank you for your work in the Lord. Keep asking the hard questions.

    May God bless you and keep you

    Dan Hall

    1. Hello Dan,

      Thanks for your encouraging words and for listening to the show! I really appreciate it. And thanks for raising this really good question.

      I would definitely agree with you (and so would Kenny) that sexual lust in any form (gay or straight) is sin and that people need to repent from such sin. However, the term “gay” (in “gay Christian”) does not mean “lust;” at least, this isn’t the way I or Kenny use the term (and I don’t know anyone who would use the term “gay” to mean lust).

      Rather, as explained on the show, I use the term “gay” as a synonym for same-sex attraction or same-sex orientation. Now, I don’t believe that someone who is attracted to the same sex is living in the constant state of a morally culpable sin. (Evangelicals are divided on this question, however.) Again, if that attraction turns into lust, then it certainly is sin and such a person needs to repent from this. However, there’s a difference between attraction and lust.

      As per your analogy, I can notice that another woman is attractive and this doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m lusting. It just means that I’m heterosexual 🙂 In the same way, a gay man can be attracted to other men, but this doesn’t mean they are lusting after other men.

      In sum, the term “gay” refers to a non-lustful attraction and therefore should not be equated with lust.

      I hope this helps!

      1. Preston
        Thank you for your prompt reply.
        I understand, and respect, your position (and Kenny’s’) on the term “Gay Christian”.

        I would have to respectfully disagree with the concept of not needing to repent of our sinful nature. We are all sinners, without excuses, we have all gone astray and none are righteous.
        I would not even dispute or debate the nature / nurture issue; either way we need to repent.

        As for my testimony, I was born a very angry individual, given to fits of rage, fearful, un-rational, an emotional train wreck; always under condemnation, with no peace or assurance; condemning and judgmental of others; among numerous other failings I might add. It was not until the realization that I was the worst of sinners that I found the peace of Christ. It was not by accepting that God made me that way, which in fact he did… but He did so that He could show me His power to overcome these things in me by way of His love, grace, mercy and power.

        Please forgive my ramblings, I only do so because I believe that there many people who stop short of all that God has in store for them because they do not fight the sinful nature but except it and even excuse it. Acknowledging our weakness, our thorn in the side if you will, is the first step but by no means the last.

        One last thing, I am not a stranger to the LGBT community, my children having several friends within this group, and are staunch defenders.

        Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and for all that you are doing for those who have been cast out.
        May God bless them through you

        Dan

        1. Thanks for your response, Dan. Again, I’m not sure we are disagreeing all too much, though I think we need to define our theological terms and concepts with more precision.

          Regarding the sinful nature, yes, of course, we are all born in sin and posses a fallen, sinful nature. But we have to distinguish between (at least) two different manifestations of that sinful nature:

          1) morally culpable products of the fall, such as lying, anger, lust, etc. that we need to repent from. And…

          2) other aspects of our fallen nature that aren’t morally culpable sins, such as blindness, deafness, mental illnesses, etc.

          Theologically (and logically), this second category is both a product of our sinful nature and evidence that we are broken, and yet aren’t things we repent from.

          Does that make sense?

          So, all I’m saying (and what most evangelical non-affirming theologians also say) is that same-sex orientation/attraction belongs in that second category. If you still disagree, then I would need to be a solid, biblical argument for why same-sex orientation is a morally culpable sin. Again, I agree that same-sex lust and same-sex behavior is sin. But these are different than same-sex orientation/attraction.

          If you want a detailed and lengthy biblical defense of my view, you can read it here:

          http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theologyintheraw/2014/12/is-same-sex-attraction-sinful/

          The second part is the most relevant.

          Thanks again for your very cordial interaction. I really appreciate it, Dan! Many blessings to you and your ministry.

          Preston

          1. Thank you for your patience

            I would agree with having to “distinguish between (at least) two different manifestations of the sinful nature”

            And there lies the rub… in order to “rightfully” correct our brother we must prove the un-provable. And with that I will leave it in God’s hands, for He alone knows the heart of man.

            I gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from your program…gutsy call on your behalf. Please keep up the good work; I listen to the show every day on my way to work. I have a great admiration for any, and all, who teach “what the Bible really says.”

            Thank you for the conversation

            God Bless
            Dan

  3. First, I would like to thank you for your program and for taking on the tough subjects. As to the recent subject at hand, it is a hard thing to defend the condemned. John 8: 1-11

    For what it’s worth, I agree with what the bible says…
    My only concern for those who identify themselves as “Gay-Christians” is the subject of repentance?

    If a man should lust after a woman, Jesus condemns him as an adulter, simply because it is in the heart. Also with being angry at our brother. If Lusting within is a sin, do we not need to “repent?” Surely we do not embrace it?

    If a man has sexual desires for other women while he is a married man, should he not repent and seek forgiveness? Should he not battle against his sinful desires; even hate them? Or would it be right to simply say that’s how God made me, except it and live with it as if it were a friend?

    if a man (these all apply to women also) is addicted to pornography does he say, “I can’t control the fact that I like to look at women,” etc. (keeping it civil). Or does he do with battle with his sinful nature, confessing, repenting and falling upon the Lord to deliver him?

    the examples are numerous.

    I am not disputing anyone’s claim of being a Christian, what I am addressing is the lack of repentance and acknowledgement of their sin? If looking at pornography is sin, if lusting is sin, then the desire to do what scripture says not to do is sin also.

    W

    1. sorry for the mix up, the first draft automatically posted before I was done. Full comment was added below. Please delete fist draft. thanks.

  4. Lev 18:24-30 is a parenthetical insertion. The Canaanites were not under the Law of Moses nor any specific covenant like the nation of Israel. Yet the land vomited them out of the land because of these abominations. This then makes it clear that God applies these moral standards to all of mankind for all time. There can be no exception for anyone ever.

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